Mark Bliss wrote:First off, forget about the "divides equally into" myth. I am sure the folks who continue to believe and repeat this mean well for the most part, but it simply doesn't work that way. It is easy to see why the fallacy seems to make sense, but its simply not true. ...
...And FWIW, the bit rate is probably about ten times more important than the sampling rate anyway.
...I've worked with projects full of 96K files and its a nonsensical headache every time.
...I chased this stuff as I learned, and I completely respect the zeal and intense interest in the technical stuff, but trust me, this is one of the worst rabbit hole wastes of time in the whole realm of ITB mixing and producing. There's a thousand things FAR more important as to your results IMO.
Well put Mark.
Let me add a picture of reality here myself. I always liked music after 1968. I found the sound prior to that muddy or tinny. They had just started proper multi-tracking and stereo records had only generally begun to be released about 2 years earlier and mixing was clearly finding new problems it had to deal with, as fast as listeners were finding new exciting sounds to listen to. Anyway, last year I found six stems on Youtube of the Led Zeppelin track 'Ramble On' from Led Zeppelin II, released in 1968, so obviously it was recorded on 8 track equipment. I found a couple of phrases on the guitar were missing so they must have been on the other 2 tracks, so I managed to re-record them well enough for them to go unnoticed on the track, which I was then free to (basically) mess around with, so I tried to get it to sound like the original as a good place to start. There was a problem though. It sounded like the tapes they came from had deteriorated very badly with age or whatever. Then I remembered what Led Zeppelin I sounded like - Mud (not the band Mud either, by the way). It wasn't tape deterioration at all. The tracks sounded like that when they were recorded. I found I had to add nearly 20dB to the upper mid range (I think it was around that frequency range anyway) to get the tracks to sound the way they did on the LP or downloads etc. 20dB ??? It seems that Jimmy Page and Eddie Kramer (the engineer) worked to get it to sound like that (Note: Lots of very expensive Eddie Kramer plugins produced by 'Waves' are out there, designed to get the sound - the sound that then became the bright sonic standard of records going into the 1970s that replaced the mud preceding it, except that after doing this getting the sound of the record back into the stems effectively means that I don't need them anyway). ...
Sorry, for Rambling on
but my point is this. All this headroom and sample rate question business is irrelevant, put into the perspective of 2 people going far beyond standard practise to actually fix the sound that everyone had failed to notice was shite and needed fixing
, when they suddenly had access to a whole 8 tracks of tape to record stuff on. Also, you may have noticed the rise in saturation effects to emulate analogue tape that was binned off when the 12 bit Fairlight came along and Mellotron went out of business for a few years. Also CDs, most people don't even bother with them anymore. ... I have paid lots of money for the GForce M-Tron Proplugin, which contains many many banks of mellotron tapes, I've also paid a lot of money for the UVI Dark Light II sample bank plus type thing to get sounds pulled from the Fairlight. If anyone listens to what I do with these sounds they would have no idea that the sounds come from 50 year old tape banks or (sometimes I believe) recordings using bit rates as low as 4 bit. Hardware synths and samplers used Reverb, delays and filters etc. to cover over the sound problems caused by their Inadequacies. Also, sound restoration tools use noise (white, pink or brown, in the case of iZotope RX6 Advanced's Spectral De-Noise) to mask other noise in the process of effective noise reduction, so as it's often a masking process, all of this stuff is irrelevant. I will end with this - Beware all these new standards, they will be ridiculed in 5 minutes time (Neutron Advanced proves the point, it's crap
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