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Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Qwoll » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:57 pm

Is it just volume or is it also distortion?

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Mark Bliss » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:40 am

There is no "distortion slider".
But I guess some distortion could be created, intentionally or not depending on what exactly you are doing.
I guess the first question is : "what slider, by what FX button?"
Well that's two actually.

Then there would probably be even more questions to follow.
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Ian Craig » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:30 am

Presumably you mean the volume here, which is a volume, that also functions as a gain knob between 0 - +6dB (Best use is to keep it down around -10dB so that you don't wreck your project when loads of tracks are going at the same time, though you can set it wherever you want obviously)
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Mark Bliss » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:52 am

Ian Craig wrote:Presumably you mean the volume here, which is a volume, that also functions as a gain knob between 0 - +6dB (Best use is to keep it down around -10dB so that you don't wreck your project when loads of tracks are going at the same time, though you can set it wherever you want obviously)

Of course that would depend somewhat on just what you are doing. To start with the level of your source material (Samples, loops, Recorded audio, virtual instruments) and then the gain structure of your inserts (effects, processing) etc.
That's why I keep pointing out that more info/clarification would help give better answers and suggestions. 8)
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Qwoll » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:53 am

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Sorry for not being clear. I mean this. What's this for?

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Mark Bliss » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:45 am

That appears to be the "master fader"
If used, it would adjust the level of the master bus, which is the sum of all tracks. It changes the level for mix down.
I don't change it from the default "0" or " unity" myself. Ever. 8)
(Mainly because I use third party metering plug-ins before that fader.)
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby cbeattyjr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:28 am

Mark Bliss wrote:That appears to be the "master fader"
If used, it would adjust the level of the master bus, which is the sum of all tracks. It changes the level for mix down.
I don't change it from the default "0" or " unity" myself. Ever. 8)
(Mainly because I use third party metering plug-ins before that fader.)


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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Qwoll » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:46 pm

Mark Bliss wrote:That appears to be the "master fader"
If used, it would adjust the level of the master bus, which is the sum of all tracks. It changes the level for mix down.
I don't change it from the default "0" or " unity" myself. Ever. 8)
(Mainly because I use third party metering plug-ins before that fader.)


By sum of all the tracks.... do you mean volume? Can you elaborate a little more :3

Also you say "0" and "unity". Are those options somewhere? Cause idk what your talking about, sorry

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Mark Bliss » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:25 pm

"The master bus, which is the sum of all tracks."
The sum of all the tracks are mixed together into the master bus. Also sometimes referred to as the main bus, or stereo bus.

"It changes the level for mix down."
The master fader you indicated if used, would change the level for mix down.

"You say "0" and "unity".....
The default position is 0, which means no gain, no attenuation. It isn't doing anything. This is also known as "unity gain"

No intention of being a smart ass, or condescending in any way, just hopefully an encouraging and constructive suggestion.....
But have you considered studying some basic audio engineering/production? There are some pretty good free and inexpensive resources available.
To start with there are some pretty good resources right here in both the Mixcraft Academy videos, and much info, tips and recommended resources in the tips and tricks portion on this forum.
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby aj113 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:01 am

Ian Craig wrote:Presumably you mean the volume here, which is a volume, that also functions as a gain knob between 0 - +6dB

No, it's not gain - there isn't a gain control as such, other than the clip automation. It's a fader. It performs exactly the same function as the faders on the mixer.

(Best use is to keep it down around -10dB so that you don't wreck your project when loads of tracks are going at the same time, though you can set it wherever you want obviously)


It is not possible to wreck a mix in a digital DAW. Any distortion introduced by high fader levels can be eliminated by reducing the level elsewhere - for example the master fader, or a subgroup fader.

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Ian Craig » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:04 am

I was referring to the Master Fader, which is a Gain Knob (between 0- +6dB), which can be automated. (I am not quoting here as I have no interest in being provoked into an argument by someone who clearly has no idea what Gain Staging is).
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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby aj113 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:43 am

Ian Craig wrote:I was referring to the Master Fader, which is a Gain Knob (between 0- +6dB)
If it were a gain control it would increase the signal to the effects. It doesn't, it gives up to 6db of output level boost (or up to infinite cut) after effects and EQ have been applied.

Ian Craig wrote:I was referring to the Master Fader
The image you posted was a channel fader. Nevertheless the above applies to both the the master fader and the channel faders.

Ian Craig wrote:I have no interest in being provoked into an argument by someone who clearly has no idea what Gain Staging is.
I posted the correct information for people who are following the thread. I have a first class honours degree in music production and thirty years' experience as both studio and live engineer, I also provide tuition in all aspects of studio recording and operate as a consultant for other studios. I'm pretty sure I have a good handle on gain staging.

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Ian Craig » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:18 am

Troll away 8)

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby aj113 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:25 pm

Ian Craig wrote:Troll away 8)


I'll leave the trolling to you if that's OK with you.

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Re: Question about the slider by the fx button

Postby Ian Craig » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:47 pm

I'm sure if what is being posted here (that I have no intention of displaying) is some kind of an apology, someone will let me know, if it isn't, I don't need to know the trajectory of it's aggressive nature, thank you. :lol: 8)

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