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Vocal harmony plug in

Postby Samoyedhead » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:17 pm

I am looking for any recommendation for a vocal harmony plug in. A company named antares has one called "Harmonyefx" that is inexpensive but it says they have had only limited trial with mixcraft so they cannot say if it is compatible with mixcraft or not. any other recomendations are welcome. Thanks Jimmy

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Postby Vibrant Audio » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:45 am

Antares works. Celemony makes one. You could try Enchoir. Here's a search at Sweetwater that might help. Here'san old forum thread from KVR that has some info.

Personally, I have found Mu Voice to be the best. However, practically speaking, they all sound fake to one degree or another. Nothing (yet) can replace having a good singer.
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby mixyguy2 » Thu May 23, 2019 2:36 pm

bump!

Anyone? I don't want "fake" harmony but the ability to make them based on an existing vocal (using same voice).

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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby trevlyns » Thu May 23, 2019 2:56 pm

:shock: Looking at the dates of the previous posts; if you haven't found it in 10 years, why not try doing the harmonies yourself? Very natural :mrgreen:
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby mixyguy2 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:00 pm

:roll:

I haven't been looking for 10 years. I just came across the thread on an internet search which is relevant to the topic.

It sounds like izotope nectar can do this but it's very expensive. Again looking for true harmonies, not fakey-sounding "simulated" ones or simple pitch shifters etc.

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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby Mark Bliss » Thu May 23, 2019 4:18 pm

Agreed Trevor. Ten years later and Vibrant Audio's original reply is pretty "on point"

In addition to the titles mentioned, the ZPlane Vieklang harmonizer and the Eventide H-3000 or quadra/octovox titles have good reps.

They are all "simulated" harmonies and pitch shifters, so I dont really understand your question. And yes, all the better quality plug ins trend toward the pricy side. Surprise!
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby jlouvar » Thu May 23, 2019 5:27 pm

Is there a good FREE one?
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby aj113 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:47 am

Mixcraft comes with Melodyne. As I understand it that is what the big boys use to generate harmonies. I use it for harmonies often - it not only shifts the pitch but attenuates the formant. In solo it's a bit ropey but in the mix it's pretty convincing.

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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby Ian Craig » Fri May 24, 2019 2:51 am

MUnison is also not free but MeldaProductions do different 4 plugins each at half price every week, subscribe to their mailing list to keep informed.
ZPlane's Veilklang is very good but awkward to use.
Melodyne is good, but I'm not sure how much the essentials version included with Mixcraft can do.
Antares Harmony Engine is quite good but very expensive.
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby jlouvar » Fri May 24, 2019 7:53 am

aj113 wrote:Mixcraft comes with Melodyne. As I understand it that is what the big boys use to generate harmonies. I use it for harmonies often - it not only shifts the pitch but attenuates the formant. In solo it's a bit ropey but in the mix it's pretty convincing.


Yeah I’ve also played with Melodyne for creating harmonies too.
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby mixyguy2 » Fri May 24, 2019 6:33 pm

Mark Bliss wrote:Agreed Trevor. Ten years later and Vibrant Audio's original reply is pretty "on point"

In addition to the titles mentioned, the ZPlane Vieklang harmonizer and the Eventide H-3000 or quadra/octovox titles have good reps.
Thx but also pricey...

They are all "simulated" harmonies and pitch shifters, so I dont really understand your question.
Probably a bad choice of words on my part. I don't want something to simply apply effects to an existing voice like delay etc. I want it to sound like a second voice singing harmony to the first. ie sounds like "real harmony" not simply applying "harmonics"

And yes, all the better quality plug ins trend toward the pricy side. Surprise!
Nah. Many good inexpensive and even free ones out there. Surprise back! :)

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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby jlouvar » Fri May 24, 2019 6:57 pm

Nah. Many good inexpensive and even free ones out there. Surprise back!


Awesome... Please post a link for a good free harmonizer.
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Re: Vocal harmony plug in

Postby Mark Bliss » Sat May 25, 2019 8:15 am

Yep. Go on, I'm all ears. 8)

I have yet to see a free or inexpensive pitch correction/shift program that didn't sound about the same as any other. Which is to say..... not too good. You could simply use the transpose (or whatever each may call it) function built in to most DAW's and get about the same results. Its good for its intended purpose, but moving far enough from the source note (for good harmonies) gives pretty poor results in my experience.

Plus, its not just about sound, some of the mentioned titles have smart interfaces that help speed up the process of creating usable harmonies. I believe some also allow for MIDI input so you can play chords or intervals to quickly get the desired result. Haven't experienced that myself though.

I have a producer friend who I believe has for years used "Alter Boy" (Sound Toys?) to pitch shift and create harmonized backing vocals pretty convincingly. Pro work.
But a backing vocal level often hides a little. A harmonized lead is more demanding and noticeable obviously.

I have experimented with Melodyne with some good results, but the basic versions lack the tools and functions to correctly get the formants right. (I have upgraded, but honestly haven't taken the time to learn the additional tools yet)
The basic versions (Of Melodyne) are good at small moves. A few semi-tones for example. An interval move of a third maybe some of the time. Fifth, not so much usually. An octave? Generally sounds like crap. And good 3 part harmonies (for example) require a fifth and an octave.
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