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nick51
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Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby nick51 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:52 pm

I'd like to be able to take 4 versions of the same vocal line and pick the best parts to put together. Can Mixcraft do this by.

Letting me pick my main track - track 3
Pick pieces of tracks 4-5 & 6 and cut pieces off of them and drop them into track 3?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been answered before.

Trying to decide if I want to buy this.

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Re: Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby trevlyns » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:14 pm

Hi!

Certainly is possible. Have a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw80Wr0EuoI and then this one for a little more detail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJyywE9ju8

Lots more interesting stuff here too: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10807

Hope this answers your question.
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Re: Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby aj113 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:13 pm

nick51 wrote:I'd like to be able to take 4 versions of the same vocal line and pick the best parts to put together. Can Mixcraft do this by.

Letting me pick my main track - track 3
Pick pieces of tracks 4-5 & 6 and cut pieces off of them and drop them into track 3?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been answered before.

Trying to decide if I want to buy this.
Yes. this is standard practice throughout the industry, called 'comping' a vocal. i.e. creating one composite track from multiple takes. However, although it's technically possible to do (and very easy with MC), that doesn't mean your edits are automatically going to sound good just because you took the best parts from each take. You still need good quality performances and takes for this method to work well. Tho cpmped vocal needs to flow as though it was one single take.

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Re: Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby aj113 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:32 pm

trevlyns wrote:Hi!

Certainly is possible. Have a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw80Wr0EuoI and then this one for a little more detail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJyywE9ju8

Lots more interesting stuff here too: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10807

Hope this answers your question.
They all have their limited use, but none of them are really dealing with the OP's request. Nick, this is how to do it:

Record 4 full takes on 4 separate tracks.

Starting at the front of the song, listen to each small phrase on all 4 tracks one by one. Choose the 'best' one, split it at front and back of the phrase. Listen to the split clip to
make sure you have exactly the right part of the phrase, adjusting the front and back of the clip carefully until you have it. Including a bit of vocal before the beginning and/or a bit after the end is not good enough. You want the exact phrase. Zooming in close will help with this.

Highlight the clip, then move it up to an empty audio track using the up arrow. (This will ensure that you don't accidently move the clip sideways out of time when moving it). Repeat this procedure with each phrase until you have your composite vocal. Make sure all edits are slightly overlapping each other. Zoom in to perform each overlap (called a 'crossfade') because you want as little overlap as possible.

Now solo the comped vocal and monitor back, checking for errors, bad edits, etc.

Don't ever use the 'merge' function. It's unstable, buggy, call it what you will, but it's unreliable.

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Re: Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby nick51 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:31 pm

Thank you thank you thank you. Concise and too the point answer! MUCH appreciate. Thanks to everyone else who chimed in as well. Knowing there is a great support group makes buying this a no brainer.

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aj113 wrote:
trevlyns wrote:Hi!

Certainly is possible. Have a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw80Wr0EuoI and then this one for a little more detail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJyywE9ju8

Lots more interesting stuff here too: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10807

Hope this answers your question.
They all have their limited use, but none of them are really dealing with the OP's request. Nick, this is how to do it:

Record 4 full takes on 4 separate tracks.

Starting at the front of the song, listen to each small phrase on all 4 tracks one by one. Choose the 'best' one, split it at front and back of the phrase. Listen to the split clip to
make sure you have exactly the right part of the phrase, adjusting the front and back of the clip carefully until you have it. Including a bit of vocal before the beginning and/or a bit after the end is not good enough. You want the exact phrase. Zooming in close will help with this.

Highlight the clip, then move it up to an empty audio track using the up arrow. (This will ensure that you don't accidently move the clip sideways out of time when moving it). Repeat this procedure with each phrase until you have your composite vocal. Make sure all edits are slightly overlapping each other. Zoom in to perform each overlap (called a 'crossfade') because you want as little overlap as possible.

Now solo the comped vocal and monitor back, checking for errors, bad edits, etc.

Don't ever use the 'merge' function. It's unstable, buggy, call it what you will, but it's unreliable.

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Re: Question Editing Multiple Vocals onto one Track

Postby nick51 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:32 pm

Thanks much!! Great help

trevlyns wrote:Hi!

Certainly is possible. Have a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw80Wr0EuoI and then this one for a little more detail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJyywE9ju8

Lots more interesting stuff here too: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10807

Hope this answers your question.


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