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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:18 am 
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Hi,

maybe this has been discussed already but I can´t find it.
Is it possible to use Mixcraft akin to a dedicated hardware looper stompbox using MIDI (or other) switches? (Start loop recording, stop recording, overdub, replay etc.)

Sometimes I wished even a playback start/stop footswitch were there.

This would be of great help for jamming.

If yes, where to tweak inside Mixcraft?

I have no experience with MIDI devices, so I would not even know what to search for. If anybody can point a suitable device, I would be grateful.
Also, homebrew is no problem.

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-helmut


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:38 am 
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Hi,

This video touches on using Mixcraft as a looper: Mixcraft University: Punch and Loop Recording

You could map a footswitch to start and top playback.

You could also use the Mixcraft 6 Remote Control on a mobile device.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:49 am 
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Its like Aquataur was reading my mind.......

Brainstorming about possible uses for the AeroMidi device/software reminded me about the Logidy device and software I was recently researching, and I was going to ask a similar question.

http://www.logidy.com/?pid=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqisOnDm ... r_embedded

Beyond the information in the video link Greg provides, anyone have any further and additional tips and advise? (I also am not really MIDI oriented, I have seen people use it in unusual ways, but even the basics tend to go right over my bald old head.)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:27 pm 
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Perhaps not directly related but, just to throw some more thought into the mix, I love what this dude is doing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtabQqcCMw

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:16 am 
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Acoustica Greg wrote:
You could map a footswitch to start and top playback.


Greg,

I thought of the punch and loop recording, but where do you map them MIDI things?
For those used to MIDI stuff, it might be obvious, but I am not.

Is this described or depicted somewhere?

Yes mbliss that´s the kind of stompbox I imagined...

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-helmut


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:16 am 
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Get outa my head Aquataur, your reading my thoughts! 8)

trevlyns wrote:
Perhaps not directly related but, just to throw some more thought into the mix, I love what this dude is doing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtabQqcCMw


I finally got a chance to really study the video of Leroy Miller, and while he has a really cool over the top setup that I dont understand whatsover nor can I fit much of that into a just for fun budget.......
I have to study some more of his stuff, see what he's up to, but in that video he just ends up jamming to a high quality backing track. Cool that he can output it all as a multi track to FOH or for recording and all, but performance wise it wasnt all that creative as compared to some other stuff I have seen where people jam and loop and play over top of their own performance, switch instruments and so forth on the fly. Thats more of the ability I desire to explore, but with the simplest rig possible as my brain has its aged limitations. :?

Simple example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0VhQpqot8w

A bit more "involved":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19aCQ_Mf8v4

Or:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0VhQpqot8w

Now were getting some ideas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCEEloEEyoc

Not looping but the kind of epic creativity that impresses me:
Ck out "Walks off the earth" on youtube-Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NF2edxy-M

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:03 am 
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Hi aquataur,

Choose "Control Surfaces" from the Mix menu. Here are a couple of videos:

Mixcraft University: Control Surfaces (Part 1)

Mixcraft University: Control Surfaces (Part 2)

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aquataur wrote:
Acoustica Greg wrote:
You could map a footswitch to start and top playback.


Greg,

I thought of the punch and loop recording, but where do you map them MIDI things?
For those used to MIDI stuff, it might be obvious, but I am not.

Is this described or depicted somewhere?

Yes mbliss that´s the kind of stompbox I imagined...

Thanks,

-helmut


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:39 pm 
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It is possible to set up a game controller as a MIDI device (and therefore assign functions to it).

The relevance? Well if you are even remotely adept with a soldering iron it is a simple job to buy a cheap USB game controller, rip out the board and solder on some connectors. You can then wire in any switches you want - even put it in to a cheap housing if you want. I have seen these made for just a few pounds.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:43 am 
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Acoustica Greg wrote:
Choose "Control Surfaces" from the Mix menu. Here are a couple of videos:


Greg,

thank you very much for the information. This is exactly what I need to know.
As I said, sometimes it is just a matter of knowing the right keywords to find what you look for.

-helmut

Later addendum:

after looking into the crystal ball I found that you can use a stock usb game controller and make this look like a MIDI controller with a piece of freeware: Rejoice + LoopBe1. Both don´t seem to put an appreciable strain on the processor. Searching around the web took me a few hours, but the actual installation was a matter of minutes - and it works!

Control Mixcraft with a gamepad - or, disassemble the gamepad, solder decent footswiches on the contacts and say hello to a low budget MIDI controller.

[Tried with W7, but make sure that jmconfig.ini in the installation directory has administrator rights!]

have fun,

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