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Voice Synthesis

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:38 am
by dpaterson
Hi folks.

Does anybody know of a plugin or software application (or if this is even possible) that would allow for one to "alter" one's voice (recorded or live but live being more important) to sound like or mimic somebody else i.e. to sound like or mimic another (known) artist / vocalist???

P.S.

I thought I should just add this i.e. I'm not talking about editing the vocals for "correctness" e.g. editing pitch or mistakes or anything like that (as can be done with Melodyne for example). In other words: assuming the vocals are pitch, note, accent, and pronunciation perfect is there any way to simply make these same vocals sounds like or mimic another vocalist.

P.P.S.

Anyone think it possible for one vocalist to actually train their voice to sound like another??? Yeh I know: anything is possible (or is it???).

Regards.

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:35 am
by Toppazy
Well, there's not automatic "make me sound like somebody else" option, otherwise I could have a great career as a vocalist!
Seriously, your best bet is to try and imitate the style you want--phrasing, pronunciation, etc.. as best as you can. Then you can use tools like the Pitch Changer in Effects/Time and pitch to alter your voice into the same vocal range as the person you're imitating. Also, creative use of EQ can make you sound quite different. Finally, listen carefully to the recording you're trying to imitate and try to copy things like the amount of reverb used, compression, etc. :D

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:15 am
by andyjo
I agree with the answer below and I also consider you have to practice on pronunciation and some details. The voice you can adjust later. Just try to listen to the song many-many times.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:20 am
by dpaterson
Hello everyone.

Thanks for the responses (I was beginning to think that nobody ever visited this part of the forums!!! LOL!!!).

Thanks (as I say) for the responses.

otherwise I could have a great career as a vocalist!


Too funny. And true. That being said: I'm making the assumption that the said vocalist can at very least sing!!!

Yip. The pronunciation and phrasing and stuff would be 100% (in theory) but one would still be able to tell that it's not the "original" vocalist so I was just wondering if there were some or the other plugin that could be used to make some changes. And to make it even more difficult: I'm taking about a live environment / performance i.e. not just for recording purposes. Problem is: I'm not just trying to cover a particular vocalist. The vocalist in question has a voice like no other. Many have tried but only possibly one has even come close (and I cannot afford him!!! LOL!!!).

Regards,

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:52 am
by Crypto
Thanks for the responses
Good to know!

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:08 pm
by comedians
Anyone think it possible for one vocalist to actually train their voice to sound like another??? Yeh I know: anything is possible (or is it???).


If you want to see how a pro does it look up Joe Longthorne, an amazing voice in his own right but he doesn't always use his own.
Here's one with Dame Shirley Bassey & Sir Tom Jones https://youtu.be/TcpZVXAayfI well not exactly with them in person !

Actually this shows a far bigger range of voices https://youtu.be/8kcO62k3gSY

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:23 am
by dpaterson
Hi comedians.

I am speechless!!! I am without speech!!! LOL!!!

Absolutely amazing I must say (especially Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, and Willy Nelson).

Thanks for this.

Regards,

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:07 am
by dpaterson
Oh well. Not long to go and I will have solved my vocalist (or lack thereof) problem!!!

Check this out (hot off the press as they say i.e. just been on Bloomberg TV):

https://lyrebird.ai/

That's their website BUT the demo on Bloomberg TV was ASTOUNDING i.e. the dude said a few words, the system then "learned", and they then transformed his voice into that of none other than Donald J. Trump and believe me when I say it was uncanny how realistic it was!!!

Ronnie James Dio shall sing again!!!

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Listened to some of the voices on the website. Not perfect (certainly not as good as what was just shown on Bloomberg TV). But they'll get there for sure (imagine a PLUGIN that could do this!!! LOL!!!).

Regards,

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:39 am
by dpaterson
This stuff is fascinating to me (and yeh I'm sure some of you think I'm nuts with this).

I've actually sent Lyrebird an email asking them to take a look at this thread and see what they think i.e. would it be possible to create a VST plugin that could be loaded over a vocal track and what comes out the other side is the voice of another artist. Really curious about this.

One thing that comes to mind (assuming that this is, or will ever becomes, a reality): I wonder what copyright law would have to say about this type of thing??? I mean to say: it's one thing copyrighting music / a performance or whatever as a whole. But does that copyright actually extend to somebody's actual voice??? Particularly in the case where the artist has passed on. If this was at all possible the algo. would have to learn from already copyrighted material (possibly past interviews or past recorded tracks).

Interesting (to me anyway).

Regards,

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:45 am
by dpaterson
Oh here you go:

Bloomberg TV has made this available:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-05/the-ai-that-puts-words-in-your-mouth-video

Check it out!!!

Regards,

Dale.

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:50 am
by starise
You could inhale some helium :wink:

This is new tech from Yamaha, It's been around but they have been perfecting it. Kinda scary actually. Who needs to sing?
https://www.vocaloid.com/en/

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:47 am
by starise
There's also this-

Realivox Ladies

https://realitone.com/realivox/

Really helpful if you happen to be male and need a female singer as opposed to actually working with some of them. They would probably say that about me too :shock:

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:40 am
by dpaterson
Hey starise.

I have no idea why I missed the stuff that you posted above. Sorry. For some reason or the other I was browsing this part of the forums last night and came across your posts.

Yip. That SURE is interesting stuff!!! And I reckon you're right (maybe JUST not yet i.e. give it another year or two or three especially with that Yamaha stuff): "Who needs to sing?". Scary huh. Although that being said: for somebody like me who cannot sing (well: as yet to be determined i.e. in desperation I'm actually trying anyway) could be "just the ticket"!!! LOL!!!

Regards,

Dale.

P.S. With TODAY'S music??? What with all the effects and corrections and stuff going on with vocals??? Who would know the difference (that Yamaha stuff, in the video, didn't sound any different to me than a processed female voice e.g. Ms. Spears??? LOL!!!).

Re: Voice Synthesis

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:57 am
by starise
No worries. Hope some of the info helps.