TheHound wrote:Jerry Lee Lewis recorded all his music in one take. That's fake? Van Halen recorded 2 track live. That's fake?
All recording is 'fake'. The second you touch an eq or a compressor it becomes fake. Evn the use of a microphone transforms the sound into something it never was. The sound coming out of the monitors is only a vague representation of the orignal source. For example, the bass guitar you are hearing took a 100 watt amp and 15-inch speaker to create at source - it couldn't possibly be an accurate reproduction when you're talking about a 20 watt amp and a 5-inch speaker.
My point being you identify vocal pitching and vocal harmonising as 'fake', and then in order to maintain your worldview, you conveniently ignore the fact that all
of the recording process is 'fake' to a greater or lesser degree. That
, my friend, is intellectual dishonesty.
Do you understand what an octave, pitch, frequency and interval mean? It's something musicians know about so probably not.
I have a first class honours degree in music production, a small part of which required passing Grade 8 music theory. I play two instruments, I am also a professional sound engineer. Look man, if you want a pissing contest, take it elsewhere. My comments were serious, and aimed at the type of people who walk into my studio with a warped sense of reality, and delusions of their own importance and uniqueness - of which you are clearly one.
Some singers get it right on the first take and sometimes I do as well.
It depends on your definition of 'right', and how low your standards are. In thirty years I have never recorded anyone who got it 'right' on the first take - or on any take for that matter.
So, when you said, "If you have to do a re-take because you sang out of tune the first time, then by your own definition you should not be singing." You were dishonest.
WTF are you talking about? You said "If a singer can't hold pitch then they should not sing until they can" and then went on to concede that you struggle to maintain pitch on occasion. Are you magically exempt from your own rules?
e.g. Beth Hart, Celine Dion, Steven Tyler, Ceelo Green won't use it.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about.