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80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby banzailoco » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pm

I've been trying to recreate the 80s gated snare sound using Mixcraft drum kits and sound library loops, but couldn't get that sound until downloading 200 drum machines samples. The sample to use is the __ XR10Snare03 __in the__ Akai XR10 __folder.

http://www.hexawe.net/mess/200.Drum.Machines/


Here's a tutorial on how to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz1xqwjLUO4


And if you know how to make it only using Mixcraft instruments please leave a comment.

:mrgreen: :arrow: :idea:

Edited 9/15/2019, 19:07. Found the same samples as in the tutorial

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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby Mark Bliss » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:19 pm

I understand everyone learns in different ways, but I have to honestly say I understood exactly zero of what was being presented (or attempted to) in that FL tutorial video.....
With a little searching you can find some tutorial examples that actually more clearly show various methods.

The basic premise is to have an exaggerated reverb tail following a relatively dry snare hit. The specific snare sample isnt really critical imo, but usually one might compress heavily with something similar to an 1176 in "all in" mode, usually with the attack set slow enough to let the transient through and yet pull up all the tail the snare has.
From there, many methods have been used, but one I have seen basically uses a big room verb, set up with a gate, delayed so just the tail is heard.

There are also parallel methods using a duplicate track, turned down, into a pre-fader reverb send, side chain triggered gate, big verb on the send...

Dave Pensado shows a method using pink noise and a bunch of verb for the tail.

Like I said. Look around a little more, theres better info IMO.
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby jlouvar » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:30 pm

Back in the 80s sometimes we'd put a little reverse gate on the snare drum (FOH).
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby Mark Bliss » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:48 pm

Yep. Basically the gate on the verb "closes" upon being triggered by the snare, and at the appropriate time "opens" and allows just the verb tail to be heard.
That is basically the essence of it as I recall.

And if I remember correctly, I read somewhere that the original idea came from the sound coming over a "talk back" mic in a drum recording room that was left on by accident, and that perhaps the earliest efforts were actually from manipulating the recorded sound of that talk back mic.

But my memory has some fuzziness...... 8)
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby banzailoco » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:42 pm

I've look at a few videos but there all in different daws and the plugins controls "knobs" have different names. It's kind of difficult to try to replicate the tutorials.

Thanx Mark and jlouvar for your input, I will search the web for your suggestions.

And Mark, the air tonight in Miami must be cold to to forget Phil. \ 8) /

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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby Mark Bliss » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:41 am

:lol:
Id have to check the weather in Miami. I assume its warm.
And I think the only thing I have forgotten about Phil is how many times I changed the station when "that song" came on.
I am not much of a fan of mainstream popular music. Then or now. 8)
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby banzailoco » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:10 am

And I think the only thing I have forgotten about Phil is how many times I changed the station when "that song" came on.

Yeap! There are some pop songs that I can't stand to ear anymore.:lol:

FOH = Front of house
http://getinmedia.com/careers/front-house-foh-engineer

The Definitive 1176 Compressor Plugin
https://sonicscoop.com/2019/03/06/the-definitive-1176-compressor-plugin-roundup/

1176LN Compressor
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?pl%20...%20gn&id=1190

Dave Pensado. Into The Lair #55 - 80's Snare Drum Trick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYZrjOJoisE


Reverse Snare

How To Create Reverse Snare Drums - Into The Lair #125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjT7_MSA19s

Creating a Reverse Snare Effect in Pro Tools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTTLKVrAuo
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby jlouvar » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:34 am

FOH = Front of house

Yes banzailoco, FOH means "Front Of House". I worked with Golden State Sound (a professional sound reinforcement company) as a FOH engineer when I was younger (I'm retired now).
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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby banzailoco » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:56 pm

Must be a breeze to mix songs when you know your stuff. 8)

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Re: 80s Gated Reverb Snare Sound

Postby banzailoco » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:27 pm

And here are the approximate settings to get a gated reverb snare.

https://forums.acoustica.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25158&p=126468#p126468


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