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Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby dpaterson » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:50 am

Hello.

Call me pedantic if you will (although I'll bet it makes a refreshing change that I'm NOT complaining, for once, about the T-RackS 5 issue) BUT has anybody noticed that the keys (the white keys only it would seem) in the Sound tab are not the same width i.e. not a uniform size??? Take a look at C4, D4, and E4 (for example) and you'll see what I mean. Because of this they don't seem to align perfectly with the tracks.


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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby mick » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:18 am

Samplitude and Reason both have G/A/D keys a little wider.
On a real Piano you will find the black keys either side of G and A are just a little bit tighter than D. 8)

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby chibear » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:28 am

As a further FYI, DP has all the keys the same size as the piano roll notes as suggested in the OP and I have found this very hard to get used to for some reason. I prefer the actual keyboard 'look' in Mixcraft.
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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby sjoens » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:48 pm

This is to make the keys look somewhat real while maintaning even spacing for the midi notes. Otherwise the black and white keys would all be the same size and look odd, as chibear mentioned.

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby dpaterson » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:34 pm

Good morning all.

Like I said: call me pedantic (or a pain in the ar*e if you prefer)!!! LOL!!!

Makes sense though (now after all your replies that is). In order for the white keys to be of the exact same width the tracks (piano roll tracks) would then not be able to be of the same width. And come to think of it: I am almost sure that it was this way in earlier updates. Anyway. Like I said: makes sense now.

mick:

Funny part is: I have owned and played many many many real pianos in my decades (and I do mean real pianos not some phong kong el cheapo keyboards either) and I have never even given it a second thought up until now!!! LOL!!! You are right. While it may be almost imperceptible you are quite right. And I am never too old to learn!!! LOL!!!

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Dale.

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby mick » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:25 am

I noticed it right away! (after 20 years that is!) :lol:

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby sjoens » Tue May 15, 2018 3:39 pm

So my logic is flawed. The real reason the keys aren't of realistic widths is to conserve file space. The current display requires only 4 white keys. A realistic display would require 8. So you're getting the "economy" version. :?

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby dpaterson » Wed May 16, 2018 1:57 am

Hello.

What on earth are you on about??? LOL!!!

Since it was explained to me as to WHY this was the case: I've gotten quite used to the "economy" version!!! LOL!!!

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Dale.

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby BillW » Wed May 16, 2018 8:50 am

But is it Laurel or Yanny?

And what color is the dress???
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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby Mark Bliss » Wed May 16, 2018 9:31 am

What on earth are you on about??? LOL!!!

Good, I thought it was just me. 8)
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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby sjoens » Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 pm

dpaterson wrote:What on earth are you on about???.


Why the keys arent of equal width. (see OP)

To make them equal requires 8 white key
graphic files. The current oddly width white keys (used by most DAWs) only require 4.

It has nothing to do with keeping the grid rows of equal width as I implied in my first post.

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby KStech » Wed May 16, 2018 9:30 pm

I heard lannil
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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby dpaterson » Thu May 17, 2018 12:26 am

Hello.

To make them equal requires 8 white key
graphic files. The current oddly width white keys (used by most DAWs) only require 4.

NOW I get it!!! The "economy version"!!! LOL!!!

It has nothing to do with keeping the grid rows of equal width as I implied in my first post.

I was quite happy, satisfied, and content with your first suggestion!!! Now you've got me all unhappy again!!! So for the sake of saving a few bytes... (only joking!!! LOL!!!).

Regards,

Dale.

P.S. Please don't confuse any further i.e. it's taking everything I have just to get over the fact that after fifty years of playing pianos I never actually realised that the black keys are not equally spaced (thanks to mick). Trying to get my head around this particular issue of the key widths in Mixcraft, given the time I probably have left, could very well be haunting me on my death bed!!! LOL!!!

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby mick » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think the visually challenged should be aware of this as a "keyboard map" or whatever you wish to call it. :D
Try it with eyes closed and find any key.

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Re: Keys Not The Same Width In Sound Tab

Postby Mark Bliss » Thu May 17, 2018 3:40 am

I have trouble playing drums. Now I realize their different sizes may be factor.

Uh oh. I suddenly noticed the different string diameters on my guitar!

And my banjo's fifth string is missing five frets of length.......

Where does it end AHHHGGG!!!

Maybe I should just stick to a good old fashioned harp.......
Ah crap, just noticed All the strings are different lengths! 8)
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