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what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by flydog » Fri May 25, 2012 1:06 pm

i'm playing with the demo of mixcraft i'm liking the interface. what orchestral plug ins are known to work well with mixcraft? i'm weighing my options at the moment.

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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by chibear » Fri May 25, 2012 3:32 pm

Right now I'm trying out Miroslav Philharmonic by IK.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik/

I quite like it. Have a listen to the demos and see what you think. Some people like a more polished sound like that of EWQL orchestra (which I'll buy when I have the computer to run it and the bucks) or the more synthy sound of Garritan orchestra. MP lies in the middle both sound and price wise. The samples were taken from the Czek Philharmonic rather than free-lancers so MP has a more unanimous sound style than the other 2 throughout the samples if that makes a difference to you. So far the only problem I've had were some strange artifacts in soft sections on my dual core desktop that have yet to appear on my new quad core laptop so it might be a problem in the machine. MP is a multi-channel VST and Mixcfraft 6 worked quite well with it in that area. It is surprisingly lenient with the CPU. I get ratings <>4% on the quad core and <>10% on the dual core. That's with 20 or more tracks running full out. It is a powerful VST and I've had it only a month so it will take some time to explore. I'll post a review under 'plugins' when I think I have a handle on everything.
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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by Acoustica Greg » Fri May 25, 2012 3:37 pm

Hi,

Along with Miroslav Philharmonic, we've also got customers using Garritan and also products from EastWest, like Quantum Leap Silver.

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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by Ianpb » Sat May 26, 2012 6:56 pm

I find that with a little EQ adjustment plus adding a slow attack, the orchestral instruments provided with Mixcraft can sound pretty authentic. I've put together a piece that has a big orchestral sound using violins and cellos, and it sounds superb. I've also used the wind instruments (flute, oboe and saxophone) on something else and they sound authentic too.

I've seen some stuff posted on Youtube supposedly using EastWest and I was thoroughly unimpressed, it often sounded a bit too mechanical, although maybe that was just due to the composer's shortcomings in manipulating the sounds.

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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by soufinel » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:30 pm

Ianpb wrote:I find that with a little EQ adjustment plus adding a slow attack, the orchestral instruments provided with Mixcraft can sound pretty authentic. I've put together a piece that has a big orchestral sound using violins and cellos, and it sounds superb. I've also used the wind instruments (flute, oboe and saxophone) on something else and they sound authentic too.

I've seen some stuff posted on Youtube supposedly using EastWest and I was thoroughly unimpressed, it often sounded a bit too mechanical, although maybe that was just due to the composer's shortcomings in manipulating the sounds.
sorry to bump this old topic, but how would you adjust the attack for acoustica's vst? there doesn't seem to be a controller for it in the piano roll and you can't edit it

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Post by Ianpb » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:38 pm

If you place your mouse pointer over the track you will see the volume line along the middle. If you click on this line about a half second to a second in you will create a marker. Then lower the volume line before this marker to zero. That will provide a slow attack. The reverse can be performed at the end of the sound to adjust decay.

I believe there is a tutorial video available on the Acoustica website that explains how to manipulate the volume line.

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Post by soufinel » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:41 pm

oh, so it's just a manual fade then, not actually changing the attack... i see. thanks for the quick reply

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Post by Louis B » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:43 am

flydog wrote:i'm playing with the demo of mixcraft i'm liking the interface. what orchestral plug ins are known to work well with mixcraft? i'm weighing my options at the moment.
I am successfully running in Mixcraft 6 Pro: Vienna Ensemble Pro; East West Platinum Orchestra; Garritan and G-Player (player for Giga studio Orchestra) and Kontakt 4 Orchestra. The Kontact 4 is has a quicker to use GUI, though all are excellent once got to grips with. Vienna Ensemble Pro has the best GUI for Orchestra by far, Garritan is the cheapest and makes a passable rendition of an orchestra.
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Post by chibear » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:14 am

I am successfully running in Mixcraft 6 Pro: Vienna Ensemble Pro; East West Platinum Orchestra; Garritan and G-Player (player for Giga studio Orchestra) and Kontakt 4 Orchestra. The Kontact 4
Do you use Kontakt and/or EWQLSO Platinum with a bit wrapper? If so how is that working for you? If not, how many instances EWQLSO can you open with 2 mic positons without the wheels coming off? Very curious as I am about to do a major computer upgrade and software purchase.

Edit: Also just read the manual(s) for VE Pro. Found the quickstart more helpful than the manual. Do you run run EWQLSO and Kontakt instruments in VE Pro and then record in Mixcraft??
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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by Louis B » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:25 pm

I don't use any bit-wrapping. I typically use 2-3 different library players at the same time, with no problem.

I have run up to 32 channels of VE Pro with no drop-out. To date I've only run about 8 dual mic instruments in EW Platinum Orchestra.

My PC is a high-spec i7 Sandy Bridge with 16GB RAM and the above has not posed a problem. My audio interface is a Digi 002 rack.
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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by UilleannB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:19 am

Since this thread still seems to be alive, another addition: the library I'm using mostly is "Peter Siedlaczek Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition" with the Kontakt 5 player. Works well, although probably not the "fattest" orchestral sound possible, but it comes at a very reasonable price and the results are okay for me.

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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by chibear » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:14 pm

"Peter Siedlaczek Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition"
Is there a North American distributer? The only place I've been able to find it is Best Service in Europe. Soundsonline handles Best Service Products in North America but doesn't carry that product.
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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by UilleannB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:42 pm

chibear wrote:
"Peter Siedlaczek Complete Classical Collection 2nd Edition"
Is there a North American distributer? The only place I've been able to find it is Best Service in Europe. Soundsonline handles Best Service Products in North America but doesn't carry that product.

I'm not sure, but I thought BestService would distribute worldwide?!
In case you don't need a DVD, BestService has another site (soundsondemand) where you can buy and download the libraries directly:

http://www.soundsondemand.com/found.asp ... n_2nd/en/1

Check the audio demos first to see if this is the sound you are searching for.

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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by wildbil » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:40 pm

Hi Louis B

I know this is off target, but could you please describe your computer and hardware?
Thanks and Happy Holidays.

bil
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Re: what orchestral vst plug ins work with mixcraft?

Post by Louis B » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:06 pm

wildbil wrote:Hi Louis B

I know this is off target, but could you please describe your computer and hardware?
Thanks and Happy Holidays.

bil
Apologies for the delay - only just picked this message up!

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