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Interface Slowdown

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I'm not sure what has brought this on, but lately, Mixcraft's interface has been suffering constant, huge delays. The screen will only refresh once every couple of seconds on a midsized, non-intensive project, and maybe every 4 on something that would usually fill my CPU during playback.
But this isn't during playback. This is just while editing, no activity. No effects enabled, no VSTs producing sound. I can still interact with the menus, but the screen remains frozen for a few seconds at a time. Sound is unaffected.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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It's worth mention that my PC is running Win 10, 64 bit. I have an i7 2600K running at 4.4GHz. 24GB of ram, and Mixcraft 7, latest 64-bit build is installed on my SSD. There is nothing bottlenecking it performance wise, that I'm aware of.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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One last thing.
Saving a project results in a 0kb file and Mixcraft freezing.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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Well judging by the specs, it doesnt seem it would be a computer resource limitation! Wow.

A lot of these problems seem to often be traced back to a specific problematic VST. But thats a guess.
A number of people have reported issues when running the 64 Bit version of Mixcraft combined with 32 Bit plugins, but again, a guess.
A log file might provide some useful clues. If you provide one via a contact for the support team, you will likely soon narrow in on the cause.

http://acoustica.com/kb/where-is-my-mix ... _1147.html
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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Well, I am using 32-bit plugins on a 64-bit system. A lot of them. The thing that befuddles me is that even a project that ran fine on a similarly specced computer, runs like absolute balls on mine, in terms of the UI. Same goes for projects that worked fine prior to this. I'll submit a report.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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It's definitely a problem related to the 64-bit version of Mixcraft. Because loading the same (an older version that's less RAM intensive) project in 32-bit is fine. Loading that same older version in 64-bit results in a laggy interface.
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Brokami wrote:It's definitely a problem related to the 64-bit version of Mixcraft. Because loading the same (an older version that's less RAM intensive) project in 32-bit is fine. Loading that same older version in 64-bit results in a laggy interface.
click the Windows icon lower left taskbar on your screen,then type task mgr into the search bar,
when it opens click on processes,click bot hthe CPU & MEMORY mini tabs in turn while the project is playing see what's pegging out @ the top. you may be able to just end a process-

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... =windows-7

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Re: Interface Slowdown

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gypsy101 wrote:
Brokami wrote:It's definitely a problem related to the 64-bit version of Mixcraft. Because loading the same (an older version that's less RAM intensive) project in 32-bit is fine. Loading that same older version in 64-bit results in a laggy interface.
click the Windows icon lower left taskbar on your screen,then type task mgr into the search bar,
when it opens click on processes,click bot hthe CPU & MEMORY mini tabs in turn while the project is playing see what's pegging out @ the top. you may be able to just end a process-

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... =windows-7

http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/12/63/63 ... w.w654.jpg

As I said, I have a beefy CPU. It's not anywhere near max load unless I'm actually playing the song. The problem is that it's still slowed down when I'm not playing back the song.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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Hi,

64-bit Mixcraft automatically loads 32-bit plugins, but running 32-bit plugins in 64-bit Mixcraft adds CPU overhead. The amount of overhead will vary depending on the 32-bit plugins you're using. Some 32-bit plugins are very CPU hungry and some are more modest in their demands.

If you really want to use 64-bit Mixcraft, you might try limiting the number of 32-bit plugins you're using. You could see if there are 64-bit versions of those plugins. Finally, you could freeze (Ctrl+F) the tracks that have 32-bit plugins if you're not currently working on the tracks.

The audio quality is the same with 32- or 64-bit Mixcraft, so there's really no reason to use 64-bit Mixcraft unless you are using some really memory-hungry 64-bit plugins. You should be able to find 32-bit versions of just about any plugin if you want to switch to 32-bit Mixcraft.

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I was going to suggest, first thing to try- Based on your description, you should try running the 32 bit version.
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Switching back to 32 version had a significant positive effect on latency for me. In reviewing resource monitor in 64 and there was almost a 1 to 1 relationship of 32 bit plugins used to a mixcraft32 file running (don't recall the full file name). In 64 I literally jumped up to 1324 ms from the 3ms I was getting in MC6. Dropping down to 32 put me back at 3ms.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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The other factor in this is that some 64-bit ASIO drivers can be a bit fidgety.
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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A bit confused here! Latency is impacted by CPU usage? I thought latency was all tied into the audio interface and high CPU usage caused dropouts or noise?
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Re: Interface Slowdown

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Hi,

I guess we're talking about the ability to have smooth playback with a lower latency setting. If your CPU is getting hammered, you can try to compensate by increasing the latency setting to buffer and smooth out playback.

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Re: Interface Slowdown

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My experience was latency during record was significantly effect using 64. Latency during playback was less noticeable.
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