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Bass Loops

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:28 am
by msnickybee
Any top tips for bass loops? Other than Google (hit and miss, too many websites trying to sell stuff) or Kontakt (looks to complicated for ol' me).
thanks guys!

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:44 am
by Acoustica Greg
HI,

Do you want loops or do you want a virtual instrument? "Loops" generally refer to pre-recorded audio files. Or are you looking for a good bass virtual instrument?

Greg

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:23 am
by msnickybee
Thanks for replying!
Well, I've built many of my own tracks with bass sounds and eg the bass devil VST and things, but I just find actual sample loops sound more authentic for my acoustic pop/rock stuff :-) although still open to suggestions!
Mixcraft has some great ones which I've now kinda exhausted, because they (necessarily) cover so many genres.
So yeah, real bass loop samples please!
I have ProStudio.

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:35 am
by Acoustica Greg

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:00 pm
by msnickybee
Acoustica Greg wrote:Hi,

Did you get the ones in our MVP Loop pack?

Here are some places to look for third-party loops.

Greg
Thanks!
Yes, got the MVP one, seen some of the others on that list.
I wonder if any of the paid ones are worth it...

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:45 am
by RobertAllan
Doubt this will help, BUT before i baught my bass i used my guitar to record the bass, and just used the
"edit audio" thingy (when you doubleclick on your audiotrack) and pitched it down 6 semitones and just added
EQ/reverb etc.. to get the sound i wanted. Might be worth a try?










RobertAllan

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:36 pm
by msnickybee
RobertAllan wrote:Doubt this will help, BUT before i baught my bass i used my guitar to record the bass, and just used the
"edit audio" thingy (when you doubleclick on your audiotrack) and pitched it down 6 semitones and just added
EQ/reverb etc.. to get the sound i wanted. Might be worth a try?
I've tried this... a bit... and it works a wee bit... but what I really want to try is what I can hear Jack Johnson seems to do... muted acoustic with a plectrum timed in unison with the bass, to give it some bite.
So much to try.... :-)
Thanks Robert!

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:48 pm
by msnickybee
Anyone got any tips for the new Omni Sampler with respect to bass sounds? perhaps combined with the XBass 4000L Bass Enhancer?
I've no experience of the former... but whilst I've tried bass sounds on my midi keyboard, I wonder if the Omni sampler gives any sonic advantages? Is it really just pitch shifting sounds just the same? Making it easier to trigger the notes across a scale.

All ideas welcome!
I really don't want a mahoosive bass guitar in the house, got enough acoustics!
I've even thought about a Bass Ukelele thing with rubber strings (now what was it called...) because it was more compact, it'll come to me...

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:49 pm
by RobertAllan
msnickybee wrote:
RobertAllan wrote:Doubt this will help, BUT before i baught my bass i used my guitar to record the bass, and just used the
"edit audio" thingy (when you doubleclick on your audiotrack) and pitched it down 6 semitones and just added
EQ/reverb etc.. to get the sound i wanted. Might be worth a try?
I've tried this... a bit... and it works a wee bit... but what I really want to try is what I can hear Jack Johnson seems to do... muted acoustic with a plectrum timed in unison with the bass, to give it some bite.
So much to try.... :-)
Thanks Robert!
There is too much to try once you figured out what sounds your going for :D




RobertAllan

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:30 pm
by Mab098157
Pitch changing has issues with tone/pitch variation during sustain. You seem to be a talented guitarist, I'm surprised no one has given the most common answer related to bass and bass recording...get a cheap bass. I think you'll be happier creating you own stuff than searching for the "right" loop and working your vision around it's limitations.

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:49 pm
by outteh
I assume you have a keyboard? Creat midi bass using the Mixcraft bass vst's! The Finger Bass emulates pretty well and you can enhance it with the x400 enhancer. For acoustic work, the Acoustic Bass vst is pretty nice also. :D

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:53 pm
by msnickybee
Mab098157 wrote:Pitch changing has issues with tone/pitch variation during sustain. You seem to be a talented guitarist, I'm surprised no one has given the most common answer related to bass and bass recording...get a cheap bass. I think you'll be happier creating you own stuff than searching for the "right" loop and working your vision around it's limitations.
I used to have a bass guitar Mark. Sure, my fingers are tough (grrr!) but bass was tougher!!
Mebbe a kids bass!? Possibility?
If I had the money, I always wanted one of these Ukelele Bass things (got a small house, don't want to be knocking ornaments off shelves with a great hulking bass guitar, one of my main acoustics is a Taylor GS-Mini! lol)

I think you might be right tho, the time has come, I've spent too many songs finding loops, manipulating, twisting, sampling and splicing... even Kate Bush had Del Palmer tho I guess..... (but she also had a Fairlight)
thanks

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:05 pm
by msnickybee
Mab098157 wrote:Pitch changing has issues with tone/pitch variation during sustain. You seem to be a talented guitarist, I'm surprised no one has given the most common answer related to bass and bass recording...get a cheap bass. I think you'll be happier creating you own stuff than searching for the "right" loop and working your vision around it's limitations.
I used to have a bass guitar Mark. Sure, my fingers are tough (grrr!) but bass was tougher!!
Mebbe a kids bass!? Possibility?
If I had the money, I always wanted one of these Ukelele Bass things (got a small house, don't want to be knocking ornaments off shelves with a great hulking bass guitar, one of my main acoustics is a Taylor GS-Mini! lol)

I think you might be right tho, the time has come, I've spent too many songs finding loops, manipulating, twisting, sampling and splicing... even Kate Bush had Del Palmer tho I guess..... (but she also had a Fairlight)

We're sat tonight listening to Gerry Rafferty - songs like "Night Owl" and "Get it right next time", and I just sit here listening to the bass, plotting and a scheming the next song (beats doing the washing up)
thanks

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:22 pm
by msnickybee
These are in stock at my local guitar shop... http://www.backalleymusic.co.uk/content ... e_(inc_Bag).html
Problem is, change too many variables, as a solo musician it becomes harder.
I write most of my songs either on acoustic, or more likely in Mixcraft sitting back and being inspired by the rhythm track I lay down and piano I score.....hmmmm

Re: Bass Loops

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:56 pm
by outteh
Lot's of free midi bass loops and patterns available, easily modified! :wink: