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Double Bass synth?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:36 pm
by kr236rk
Hi,

Have an electric bass but what's the best way to emulate the sound of a bowed double bass please? I toyed with the idea of a bass guitar 'gizmo' but these look glitchy to me - all those cogs spinning round.

Any ideas please - apart from buying a double bass that is! :-o

Thanks :)

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:56 pm
by Ajgi
kr236rk wrote:Hi,

Have an electric bass but what's the best way to emulate the sound of a bowed double bass please? I toyed with the idea of a bass guitar 'gizmo' but these look glitchy to me - all those cogs spinning round.

Any ideas please - apart from buying a double bass that is! :-o

Thanks :)
I don't think there's any good way to get your (presumably) fretted electric bass to sound like a double bass, especially a bowed one. If you get a volume pedal and a slide you can get a more bowed-like sound. An example of this is a bassist called Janek Gwizdala, who uses an octave pedal and gets a very violin-like tone.
In this video he isn't using a slide, but I think he's running his bass through: volume pedal, octave pedal, compressor, reverb. https://youtu.be/LTDKw9Z5C9E?t=8m21s

If you're just looking for a way to get this sound in Mixcraft for composition purposes, one of Mixcraft's virtual instruments is called Double Bass. It's under the Strings - Solo category. It's got a pretty decent sound.

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:17 am
by TrevsAudio
On one of my songs, I used an electric bass initially, then imported the WAV into Melodyne. I then exported it as a MIDI file which I used with Kontakt Free as a VSTi. It has an excellent upright bass.

Here's the result..

https://soundcloud.com/trevlyns-1/swonderful

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:47 am
by kr236rk
Thanks Trev and Ajgi :)

Fascinating!

How on earth do you export a Wav into a midi file please? :-o

Bests,

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:21 am
by TrevsAudio
kr236rk wrote:Thanks Trev and Ajgi :)

Fascinating!

How on earth do you export a Wav into a midi file please? :-o

Bests,
I had Melodyne as a separate program - this was prior to MC8 Pro. I just recorded the bass (DI) and mixed down just that bass track to a WAV stem. I then opened it in Melodyne, tinkered with it a bit and then Melodyne allows you to save the work as a MIDI file. So dragged this MIDI file into Mixcraft and added the Kontakt VSTi

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:19 am
by Mark Bliss
Just for clarification:
The "Essentials" version in MX8PS wont do that. You would need an upgraded version.

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:05 am
by kr236rk
Thanks Trevor :)

What do you mean Mark, that MC8 won't allow dragging MIDI files into Mixcraft please?

Please explain.

Many thanks

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:09 am
by Mark Bliss
I meant that Trevor's trick of creating MIDI from audio using Melodyne, requires an upgrade from Melodyne essentials.

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:39 pm
by kr236rk
Cool :) So which versions of Melodyne can do this please, several or only one please?

Thanks.

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:04 am
by TrevsAudio
kr236rk wrote:Cool :) So which versions of Melodyne can do this please, several or only one please?

Thanks.
I have Melodyne Editor version 2 - got it in 2012. It certainly has the convert to MIDI feature but that version has been updated - I think they're on version 4 at the moment. And yes, as Mark says, the feature is not available in the version that comes with Pro Studio 8

Re: Double Bass synth?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:07 pm
by kr236rk
OK thanks guys ;)