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BradC
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Tempo Map

Post by BradC » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:19 pm

I have a song that is an old Irish lament in the Sean Nos style.
Meaning there is no set BPM or steady rhythm so it varies.
I recorded the melody guitar without a metronome with the time on the track not beats.
I want to add other parts and was advised to create a tempo map that the other parts can adhere to.

Is there a way to create such a tempo map with Mixcraft 8 and Melodyne?
If so does anyone know of a tutorial for doing it or can you advise on how?

Thanks much!

Cheers! :)

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Re: Tempo Map

Post by BradC » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:44 pm

I take it by the underabundance of replies that a tempo map cannot be created in Mixcraft...

Oh well.

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Re: Tempo Map

Post by aj113 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:12 am

Beat matching is difficult and time-consuming in any DAW, but even worse, it is not Mixcraft's strongest suit, since it has no dedicated feature. I've tried it a few ways but all are painful. If I were to do it again, I'd copy an audio sample of whatever I wanted to use as a click sound (sidestick for example), then paste it in manually at the beginning of each bar. If you're lucky the waveform will be a big help as a guide. You can then go back and paste in half notes and quarter notes if necessary. Sounds like hard work but I reckon it would only take about 15 minutes or so.

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Re: Tempo Map

Post by Acoustica Greg » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:26 am

BradC wrote:I have a song that is an old Irish lament in the Sean Nos style.
Meaning there is no set BPM or steady rhythm so it varies.
I recorded the melody guitar without a metronome with the time on the track not beats.
I want to add other parts and was advised to create a tempo map that the other parts can adhere to.

Is there a way to create such a tempo map with Mixcraft 8 and Melodyne?
If so does anyone know of a tutorial for doing it or can you advise on how?

Thanks much!

Cheers! :)
Hi,

You can add track markers with tempo information in them for different sections of the song.

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On the sound tab, you can set sounds to Use Project Tempo, but this will work well only if Mixcraft can detect the tempo of the audio or read tempo data stored in the audio. If you recorded it yourself, it won't have tempo data stored in it and it would have to have a clear beat for Mixcraft to detect it. In that case, you'd have to play around with it. There is a tap tempo option so you can try to tap out the BPM.

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Re: Tempo Map

Post by BradC » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:32 pm

Thanks Greg and aj113!

I appreciate you taking the time.

Yep, sounds like a frustrating and laborious undertaking.
I'll give it a shot though.

Thanks again!

Ciao, Brad

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Re: Tempo Map

Post by msnickybee » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:33 am

I've done a song with a lot of tempo changes in Mixcraft, to give it the feel of naturally accelerating slightly (a more "human" feel), and I can say that it works quite well.
The problem comes of course when there's a time signature change (think The Stranglers "Golden Brown" or Pink Floyd "Money") as well. Mixcraft can handle this of course, but I find it difficult, and you can rapidly get in a pickle with linked tracks and "snap to grid" etc.
Even in this Sound on Sound article it talks about how it sometimes comes down to a bar-by-bar analysis.

Good luck, and if I know *anything* (I don't):
(1) record against a metronome or click or lay down rhythm first (you can always humanise this later as explained above)
(2) or keep it all free...just play along and enjoy, and play by ear... you can always "time stretch" parts that you then play and record slightly out of time (be careful with warp/quantise)
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