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Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:32 pm
by geobee
Agree Mark, the thing with ALL amp modelling circuits, is that they are all digital circuits and lets face it, the good tube guitar amps are all analogue, with some later designs using some digital circuitry in the pre amp stage to obtain effects etc, but the real deal amps are all tube design. I use a 20 watt all tube amp, my build, and it so fat in sound, but when I put a Vox Tonelab effects unit in front of it, it does thin out the sound a bit. The Vox uses a tube in the design, but that is a bit of a gimmick, as the balance of the circuitry is ''chip'' based. I don't care what brand of equipment it is, but once an analogue signal is converted to digital, it is not going to have that nice ''rounded, warm'' sound. Digital signal is either ''on or off'', as it is just zeros and ones, analogue is a complete sine wave that just swings from a positive to a negative sound wave. In other words, it is never totally on or off, as with digital. Digital was never designed for audio use, but yes, it does have it's uses now that we are used to it's convenience. If anyone needs to compare, just listen to an acoustic guitar recording, made on a high end tape recorder, then listen to the same recording done on a digital machine. No contest.

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:45 pm
by jlouvar
guitbuddy wrote:Click on +fx in Mixcraft 8 and checkout the Shred Amp Simulator.

thanks . are you a guitarist? I recall really disliking that plugin.
I'd love to hear your guitar playing? I'm mainly a bassist but I play guitar too... I posted a link to my newest song "THE GRIND" over on the USERS SHOWCASE forum.
https://forums.acoustica.com/bbs/viewto ... 10&t=24905

PS: Did you find a guitar amp modeling plugin you like yet?

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:38 am
by Drdish007
Hi,
When you record your 20w amp does it still sound warm/hot?
When we record we are converting the analog to digital in Mixcraft. If your amp sound still sounds good when recorded it may be an issue with the equipment you place before the amp.
I have recorded amps and a Leslie speaker with good results. Converting the microphone analog signals to digital did not change the amp sounds. In the daw I am able to adjust the EQ when needed, usually to remove the low bass and noise, or high end hiss.
You could try adding effects in the daw, and use the one that fits the sound you are after.
If you want to record the effect, take time to get the sound you want and mic it accordingly.
Hope this helps.
- Myran.

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:36 pm
by bigaquarium
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Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:50 pm
by guitbuddy
jlouvar wrote:
guitbuddy wrote:Click on +fx in Mixcraft 8 and checkout the Shred Amp Simulator.

thanks . are you a guitarist? I recall really disliking that plugin.
I'd love to hear your guitar playing? I'm mainly a bassist but I play guitar too... I posted a link to my newest song "THE GRIND" over on the USERS SHOWCASE forum.
https://forums.acoustica.com/bbs/viewto ... 10&t=24905

PS: Did you find a guitar amp modeling plugin you like yet?
the white wedding singer sounds pretty good.

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:05 pm
by geobee
When you record your 20w amp does it still sound warm/hot? I presume you are asking me the question. No, the tube amp guitar sound when played back from the recording computer, using any DAW, not just Mixcraft, never has the same rich sound. And I expect that as we stated earlier, it is trying to convert analogue to digital, and back to analogue again so that our ears can hear it. A sine wave is simply not zeros and ones, but hell, it is very convenient. I can take my ZOOM digital multitracker out into the desert if I needed to, and record. A 16 track tape machine is a ''little'' more of a problem. lol

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:08 pm
by jlouvar
guitbuddy wrote:the white wedding singer sounds pretty good.
That's one of my old friends "Will Patrick" singing and I recorded the song many years ago (back when the song was popular on the radio) on a little Tascam cassette 4-track porta studio in the Livingroom.

BTW: If you haven't found a guitar amp simulator that you like, put a mic on your guitar amp. :wink:

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:34 pm
by banzailoco
The Best FREE Guitar VST Plugins are.(Some links don't work anymore, you're going to have to google them)

https://thehomerecordings.com/free-guitar-vst-plugins/


LePou
http://www.vst4free.com/index.php?dev=LePou

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:32 pm
by ron-e-g
Still one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXjRj3AUWg Mostly for Electric guitar.

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:33 am
by shakin_fingers
I've been enjoying Tonelib-GFX (https://tonelib.net/gfx-overview/).

Pros:
  • It's free
  • Good range of presents
  • Very editable
Cons:
  • I can't persuade it to restore the selected setting(s) on a track(s) when I load a project - MC remembers which setting I used but I have to re-select it track by track. A mild irritation for me at present, could be a show-stopper for others, ymmv

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:25 am
by carllackey
guitar rig 5 is definitely the best i've ever used. it has some incredible patches and it sits very well in a mix.

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:25 pm
by liberaltugboat
A bit old at this point but still sounds really good is Waves GTR 3. It is absolutely the best bang for the buck (it's currently $36 on-sale).

Re: Amp Modeling?

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:59 am
by Frantiac
I agree 100%, use GTR's Drive amp all the time. The "DriveLite" (Super Reverb) preset is fab with Strats/Teles.