Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

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Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by neomewilson » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:26 am

I am a new person to the world of composing music although I've been a musician of sorts for over 40 years. I purchased a Nektar LX88+, I am evaluating Mixcraft 9 and would purchase the Pro version if I can figure this out. I have a Roland SC 55 my brother sent me. Here's what I need help on:

1. How can I use a combination of both Mixcraft and the Roland to produce music? There are sounds that the Roland can produce that have no latency and sound crisp. I would like to use some instruments from it but others from Mixcraft.
2. I have a high-end desktop computer with 16 GB RAM, Intel Processor with fast speed and a Nivida GTX 1080 graphic card. I own the Nektar keyboard, Roland SC-55. I have the SC-55 connected to my Midi keyboard through a MIDI cable. My LX88+ is connected by USB to my computer. All works fine. Now I want to record some of those sounds into Mixcraft. How do I do this?

I have the manuals for the Roland but this was manufactured in a world of technology that was different then current times. I know there must be a way, I simply have not been able to figure out what I need to add tracks produced with the Roland into Mixcraft.

Any help would be appreciated.

Michael

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Re: Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by Acoustica Greg » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:47 am

Hi,

MIDI doesn't contain any audio, it's just musical instructions that tell hardware or software how to play the audio. If you want to capture the exact sound of your keyboard, you'd need to make an audio connection to your computer instead of a MIDI connection.

You would connect the audio out on the hardware device to the Line In on your computer. One possible roadblock is that a lot of computers don't have a Line In input these days. Also, if you use Line In, the latency will be higher (meaning it will take longer for sound to come out of your computer after you play some notes.

The other solution would be to get a low-latency USB audio interface of some kind. Here's one example: https://new.steinberg.net/audio-interfaces/ur22c/

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Re: Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by neomewilson » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:43 pm

First of all thanks for the quick response. I currently have the following setup:

1. Nektar LX 88+ keyboard with USB from keyboard to the PC. That allows me to work fine with Mixcraft on its own.
2. Nektar LX 88+ keyboard with MIDI out to MIDI in on the Roland SC-55. That allows me to use just the Roland SC-55 to power voices and effects and I hear it because of the RCA Outputs to my Bose Desktop speakers. No computer involved here.
3. The SC-55 has a MIDI out and MIDI Pass-through Port still available.

If I purchase a MIDI to USB device like the one linked to me I am assuming that I would connect the MIDI Out and MIDI Pass-through port from the SC-55 to the MIDI In and Out on the new device and plug the USB from the device into an available port on the PC. Is that correct?

I am also assuming that Mixcraft would allow me to add that device to a track so anything I played on the MIDI Keyboard using the SC-55 instruments could be recorded by Mixcraft. Is that correct?

Thanks again for the assistance.

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Michael

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Re: Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by Acoustica Greg » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:57 pm

Hi,

You already have MIDI connections that work just fine, right? If you want to record the exact sound that your Roland produces, you'd need to record it as audioe, so you'd connect the audio out to Line In, or to a USB audio interface. This would allow you to record the sound of the Roland on an audio track.

There's no way to do this with MIDI, unless you found a virtual instrument plugin that sounds exactly like your Roland, and then the MIDI would cause the virtual instrument to make the sound.

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Re: Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by Drdish007 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:56 pm

Hi,
I use Roland D5 synth/controller, a Roland U220 sound module, a Ferrofish B4000+ organ module, a 49 key controller, and a M-audio Keystation 88 controller. These are connected using 5 pin MIDI cables. I use a MOTU 5 channel MIDI interface to connect the controllers and modules. The MIDI interface connects to the computer with USB.
The audio out from the modules goes to a hardware mixer, which is connected to my 8 channel audio interface. I out put the main stereo output of the mixer to 2 channels of the audio interface. The other 6 inputs of the audio interface are used for microphones.

My MIDI connections are as follows. Keystation88 to MIDI interface input 1, D5 to input 2, 49 key to input 3.
MIDI interface out 2 goes to MIDI IN on the U220. U220 MIDI THRU to MIDI IN on the D5. D5 THRU to MIDI IN on organ module.
By changing MIDI channels I can control the different modules and virtual instruments. Example, on the organ module I use MIDI channel 1 for upper keyboard manual, MIDI channel2 for the lower keyboard manual. With this I can use the D5 for upper, and Keystation for lower.
With this or similar setup you could control hardware and virtual instruments. I don't have to change any MIDI connections, just change MIDI channels. Depending on what I am recording I do have to make audio connection changes to my hardware mixer, but all cables are close to the mixer. I also use/record my Rhodes piano which is not a MIDI instrument. The organ module goes through the mixers Mon out to a Leslie speaker, which is mic'd.

Hope this helps.
- Myran
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Re: Newbie Evaluation - LX88+, Mixcraft 9, and Roland SC 55 - Need Help

Post by neomewilson » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:18 pm

I thank everyone who contributed to my understanding as a new person in this world of orchestrating and producing music. As an update. I purchased a MIO MIDI to USB device since I only had the one channel to worry about to the Roland Hardware DAW. It works very good with no lag time at all.

The MIO is seen by Mixcraft as another MIDI device. I use a Virtual Instrument track, set it to MIO and can then record that track using the voices from the Roland. I could not get an Audio track to work, I believe it's looking for a microphone device of some type vs. a MIDI. At least that is what it states in the dialog box when I try to set it to something.

It all works well and I was able to record the first few bars from Carol of the Bells using a Piano, Tubular Bells, Cello and Violin from the Roland. Everything is working well. The Mixcraft product has been easy for me to learn and I really like the edit feature where I can adjust or insert and delete notes as needed. I also like seeing the notation version on it since I have been sight reading music for a long time.

Again, thanks to all. Great product so far, and great forum response. I am impressed...

neomewilson - Michael

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