I'm using the latest builds of Slate's VTM, VCC, and VMR. I can instantiate the plugins to a project and they work - until I try to reload said project. If I save the work, and attempt to reopen the file, Mixcraft crashes. I am not using VST3 versions .
Win 10 x64 - 1703 - optimized for pro-level audio production.
No issues of this kind with Studio One Pro 3.x or 4.x; Ableton Live 9 Suite, Cakewalk Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk (Bandlab), Samplitude Pro X2 or X3; or Bitwig Studio 1.35. For the record, none of these other DAWs had issues with IK Multimedia's MODO Bass or T-Racks 5 either . . . jus' sayin'.
Anyhooo, in order to work with this old project file, which I've carefully migrated from Mixcraft 6, I NEED to be able to reopen the file. Please remind me how I go about submitting a support ticket, please.
** ÉDIT **
Certain plug-in combinations also cause Samplitude Pro X3 to choke. So far, it appears (to me) that under WINDOWS 10, Lexicon LXP reverbs (build 1.2.2) and Slate FG-X (build 1.4.0) and possibly VTM build (1.1.13) cannot play nicely together. This speculation is formed after scouring the Windows event logs and a lengthy “process of elimination”. My other DAWs haven’t this issue — Only Mixcraft and Samplitude. It’s also more prevalent using ASIO drivers. WaveRT bears up a little better, but does still crash.
Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
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Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
Hi,
Looks like you succeeded in submitting a support request. We'll reply ASAP.
Greg
Looks like you succeeded in submitting a support request. We'll reply ASAP.
Greg
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Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
I was moseying around google and stumbled on this.....
https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128073
https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128073
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Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
Although it is far from an ideal solution, I have found a work-a-round that seems to have put the issue to rest. Instead of using the most current (and functional) version of Lexicon LXP Reverb bundle, I've started using an old build - v1.1.1.9. This installer dates back to 2011 and unfortunately the plug-ins don't respond to typing input -- fiddly mouse control only to adjust parameters. Personally, I really like being able to precisely type in a parameter value, but I digress. At least now, I can continue working in Samplitude Pro X3 and Mixcraft with my beloved Lexxies. C'mon, man! Ya gotta love that Lexicon Sound for certain tracks.
To be honest, I don't use Mixcraft too much anymore, but I do need it working so that I can open up old projects from 4 - 8 years ago. I'll always have a big soft spot in my heart for Acoustica and Mixcraft, and I do still enjoy tweaking my old Mixcraft v4,v5, & v6 projects with access to side-chaining, 64 bit memory, and greatly improved DAW features and performance. I don't bother with the bundled plug-ins, but at least they're in there for folks who are just starting out, or who can't afford pro plugins: eg. Retirees, college students, teen bedroom producers, and so forth. Plus, Acoustica's EDU licensing is wonderful. Acoustica is a great team of dedicated folks and they nicely fill a much-needed niche on the digital landscape.
The "big" pro-grade DAWs are created for professional engineers and so forth. However, it's great that Mixcraft is the affordable "musician's DAW".
I find that Mixcraft often has stability/performance issues with VST3 plug-ins. Mixcraft doesn't always deal well with OpenGL-driven GUIs -- such as found in certain Waves, FabFilter, Melda Production and Softube plugins, for example. However, as of v8.1.413, it is doing better. A less-than-ideal workaround is to disable OpenGL rendering in plug-ins that support the option. Mind you, I'm using Intel HD630 GFX so maybe systems outfitted with discreet ATI GPUs fare better. Nvidia GPUs are not a good choice in this scenario, but Intel has always been strong as is ATI/AMD.
Okie doke. . . . enough of this preacher's ramblings for this post.
Thanks for Greg and Eric for taking the time and bother to investigate and get the support ticket ball rolling. I think I've figured out the cause of the reported issue myself, however.
I will also contact the "almost non-existent" tech support over at Harman/Lexicon to inquire from them whether or not recent builds of their LXP and PCM bundles incorporate OpenGL acceleration for the plugin GUIs.
To be honest, I don't use Mixcraft too much anymore, but I do need it working so that I can open up old projects from 4 - 8 years ago. I'll always have a big soft spot in my heart for Acoustica and Mixcraft, and I do still enjoy tweaking my old Mixcraft v4,v5, & v6 projects with access to side-chaining, 64 bit memory, and greatly improved DAW features and performance. I don't bother with the bundled plug-ins, but at least they're in there for folks who are just starting out, or who can't afford pro plugins: eg. Retirees, college students, teen bedroom producers, and so forth. Plus, Acoustica's EDU licensing is wonderful. Acoustica is a great team of dedicated folks and they nicely fill a much-needed niche on the digital landscape.
The "big" pro-grade DAWs are created for professional engineers and so forth. However, it's great that Mixcraft is the affordable "musician's DAW".
I find that Mixcraft often has stability/performance issues with VST3 plug-ins. Mixcraft doesn't always deal well with OpenGL-driven GUIs -- such as found in certain Waves, FabFilter, Melda Production and Softube plugins, for example. However, as of v8.1.413, it is doing better. A less-than-ideal workaround is to disable OpenGL rendering in plug-ins that support the option. Mind you, I'm using Intel HD630 GFX so maybe systems outfitted with discreet ATI GPUs fare better. Nvidia GPUs are not a good choice in this scenario, but Intel has always been strong as is ATI/AMD.
Okie doke. . . . enough of this preacher's ramblings for this post.
Thanks for Greg and Eric for taking the time and bother to investigate and get the support ticket ball rolling. I think I've figured out the cause of the reported issue myself, however.
I will also contact the "almost non-existent" tech support over at Harman/Lexicon to inquire from them whether or not recent builds of their LXP and PCM bundles incorporate OpenGL acceleration for the plugin GUIs.
Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
This may or may not be relevant, and I don't know what OS you're on, but the Lexicon website doesn't show any product support past Windows 7 for the products you mentioned.
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2TB SSD
Behringer UMC404HD v5.57.0 interface
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Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
Read OP. I state my OS.Thomas wrote:This may or may not be relevant, and I don't know what OS you're on, but the Lexicon website doesn't show any product support past Windows 7 for the products you mentioned.
You’re correct in that Win 10 isn’t specifically mentioned on the Lex site, just Windows 64 bit (general).
Re: Slate Digital Plugins Crashing
UnderstoodBrother Charles wrote:Read OP. I state my OS.
You’re correct in that Win 10 isn’t specifically mentioned on the Lex site, just Windows 64 bit (general).
Hopefully your log file will be used to solve your issue and make Mixcraft that much better for us all.
-Tom
Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio 64-Bit
Windows 10 64-Bit
AMD Athlon II X4 645 3.1 GHz 10GB Ram
2TB SSD
Behringer UMC404HD v5.57.0 interface
Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio 64-Bit
Windows 10 64-Bit
AMD Athlon II X4 645 3.1 GHz 10GB Ram
2TB SSD
Behringer UMC404HD v5.57.0 interface