Audio files force CPU to 30%

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Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Don't B FLat » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:00 am

I've been having a problem for a little while now. I'm using Mixcraft 9 Pro build 452. Whenever I load in an audio file, weather its from a sample pack, the Mixcraft audio library, or Freesound, my computer CPU jumps to 30% or so. The screen also lags considerably. I have a custom built computer running an Intel i5-7600, 16 GB of Ram, and SSD storage. Is this a bug or something that I can fix? Thanks!

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Acoustica Greg » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:18 am

Hi,

Go into Mixcraft's Sound Device preferences and make sure that you do not have "Force Single CPU" selected. If you do, turn it off and restart Mixcraft.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Don't B FLat » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:12 am

The box has always been unchecked. Anything else I can try?

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Don't B FLat » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:28 am

I think I found the issue. I'm currently running Mixcraft on two monitors. When I have the windows split between them, it causes the lag. When I force everything onto one screen, it drastically reduces the lag. Is this a bug or just a problem with my computer? Currently, I'm using the default outputs on my motherboard without an external graphics card. Here's a video detailing the event.: https://youtu.be/X16wuV26bKw

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Rolling Estonian » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:45 am

For best results get an interface. Not knowing what your specs are I'm willing to bet your pc is having trouble doing extra monitor and audio processing.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Acoustica Greg » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:48 pm

Hi,

Huh, I've never noticed an increase in CPU when using dual monitors. Maybe try updating your video card's graphics driver?

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by CazaroTaro » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:35 am

I noticed what Don’t B Flat describes when working on a project a few days ago. I have taken some time to look further into the matter.

I am using Mixcraft 9 Pro, build 452 on two computers:

1. i7 cpu desktop with 16 GB ram, two monitors, NVidia graphics card, Scarlett 2i2 2nd generation audio interface.
2. A 10 year old laptop with 6 GB ram, Pentium II cpu. Onboard graphics and audio. The laptop was operated using the external power supply.

My test method was to use two audio clips from the Mixcraft library: Jet Commercial Takeoff 5 and Drop 2 (by Shok). Jet Commercial Takeoff 5 does not have a tempo associated with it, Drop 2 has a tempo of 130 bpm associated with it. No idea if this is important.

These audio clips were inserted on separate audio tracks in the same instance of Mixcraft 9. The audio clips did not overlap. No other audio or MIDI was present in the project. The clips were played with the Details pane undocked and docked. The cpu usage as displayed by the CPU Mixcraft indicator in the bottom right of the main screen was recorded.

In my testing, I found that cpu usage rises during clip playback if the Details pane is undocked particularly for the Drop 2 clip , whether undocked to a second monitor, or undocked and remaining on the same monitor as the main screen of Mixcraft.

Initial results for i7 cpu desktop system

Jet Commercial Takeoff 5
Docked: 0%
Undocked: 4%

Drop 2
Docked: 0%
Undocked: 11%

Results for the Pentium II laptop

Jet Commercial Takeoff 5
Docked: 2%
Undocked: 2%

Drop 2
Docked: 5%
Undocked: 40%

Interestingly, if the audio clips where played multiple times, the cpu usage tended to fall over time until there was little difference between docked and undocked. I have tried other audio clips from the library with similar results.

I can’t say definitively that there is a software bug in Mixcraft 9, build 452, but I do believe that the observation by Don’t B Flat is valid, and deserves to be looked into further.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Acoustica Greg » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:45 am

Hi,

It’s natural for additional processes to require additional processing time. The video card and the processing power of the video card would obviously have a big impact on this issue. Updating the video card driver would definitely be worth trying; we’ve actually seen this help out with audio problems in the past.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by CazaroTaro » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:09 am

Can you replicate my observations? Can other readers replicate this problem?

For what it is worth, Mixcraft 8.1, build 418 does not show this effect when run on the same computer.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Savannahrenovations » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:53 pm

I have the same problem my pc:
i7-8700k CPU
64 GB of Ram

Mixcraft 9 Pro latest build.
Load anything from the library (drum loop), CPU Mixcraft 10% , System 28-30% While loop is running. Stop playing CPU Mixcraft 0% System 10%

Everything just stutters like the system is overloaded. I get a similar situation when I have say 30-40 tracks with effects and Izotope mastering running...but I guess that is kinda expected.

Mixcraft 8 does not have this issue.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Savannahrenovations » Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:25 pm

Whoa...I think I might have stumbled across something! I added a drum track and tested again. High CPU usage as the new normal (about 30%) I froze the track and it fixed it. Then I unfroze the track and everything was fine!

Weird...but it works! At least on my end.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by CazaroTaro » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:21 am

I did some more testing and found that increased cpu use when playing an audio clip in Mixcraft 9 occurs only if the Details pane is undocked AND the Library tab is selected.

Selecting the Project, Sound, or Mixer tab eliminates the high cpu use during playback.

Once again, this is in a new Mixcraft 9 project devoid of anything but the audio clip.

My audio and video drivers are up to date.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Acoustica Greg » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:13 am

Hi,

Which element of the library do you have displayed? For example, if you were on Freesounds.org, you'd be accessing the Internet.

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by CazaroTaro » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:35 am

I had the Mixcraft sound library (open book symbol) selected in the Library tab.

I tried selecting the Local Folder, FreeSounds, and Favorite elements. The results are:

i7 system: Mixcraft library and Local Folder (folder symbol) elements selected cause increase cpu use, FreeSounds and Favorites elements do not cause increased cpu use. I have many samples in my Local Folder.

Pentium II laptop: Mixcraft library element only caused increased cpu use. However, I have NO sample folders on the laptop.


I tested with and without my internet connection active. No difference.

I downloaded beta build 454 (64 bit) onto my laptop and tested that. It behaves the same as build 452 (64 bit).

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Re: Audio files force CPU to 30%

Post by Acoustica Greg » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:20 am

Hi,

I was able to try it with dual monitors. I'm not noticing a bunch of extra CPU, but I'm noticing a lot of graphic jumpiness (not audio), when I have the details tab undocked and the library displayed. If I switch to the mixer or whatever, it stops.

Thanks for reporting this!

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