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Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:11 am
by joss
Well, now I need to create a Pitch bend effect to an already recorded note, be it audio or midi.
I've tried selecting the "pitch wheel" on the midi editing screen and it doesn't work.
It would also be great to be able to do Pitch bend in audio.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:36 am
by TrevsAudio
What I do is split the note in clip view, and select 'Pitch' from the dropdown next to the prefs icon. You can then apply automation with the centre line of the clip.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:58 am
by joss
Thanks, I didn't expect it to be done.
But I think it's hard to make it sound real.
But why do you divide the note?
According to what I read, other DAWs have a more specific function to do it.
But why do you divide the note?
Thank you. :D

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 2:29 pm
by TrevsAudio
I use mine as an effect at the end of a phrase. I only want the last note to drop in pitch; sounds like it's fading away or sliding down the scale. So I just isolate that specific note. I don't need the whole phrase to behave like that.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 2:52 pm
by joss
I understand.
What I am looking for is the pitch bend effect of the distorted notes of an electric guitar that is achieved with the Pitch bend wheel of the keyboard controller at the time the MIDI is recorded, but what I would like is to be able to add it once it has already been recorded. And I find this difficult to achieve with this method and make it look good.
I don't know if I explain myself.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 7:21 pm
by cactus-head
Hi,

MIDI there are many ways. It's also going to depend on the synthesizer or VST that you are using. Some allow pitch bend and some do not. Some allow the pitch bend range to be changed, and some do not.

For MIDI, one way it to put the track in overdub recording mode. Record your MIDI nots as you would. Now go back to the beginning. Record again, this time just using the pitch bend on you controller (either hardware or use CTRL + ALT + K to activate the virtual keyboard in Mixcraft and use the 1 and 2 keys to control the pitch bend up and down). If it's difficult, slow down while you are recording.

Another way is manually add pitch bend on the MIDI details tab.

Another way is to look at the automation capabilities of the particular synthesizer or VST. There may be a control specific to pitch bend that will allow you to add automation points and curves to control it.

Another way is to use a control track that has recorded MIDI pitch bend on it and send it the MIDI track to bend.

For audio, there's not many options. On the clip level, you can control the automation within the clip itself. At the top of the screen right below the main menu where it reads Video should be a drop down that defaults to volume. Select a clip and choose pitch. You can now go into the clip and control pitch automation on that audio clip.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 3:19 am
by joss
Thank you so much.
It is about adding pitch inflection to some notes already recorded, re-recording is not a good option for me, it is very difficult for me to record and rectify later in the MIDI editor.
Looking for options in VSTs will take me time to discover if they have them and I suspect it will be very complicated, in this case it is an audio clip but I could convert it to MIDI.
The option that seems promising to me is to add pitch bend in the MIDI details tab but...
Where is the MIDI details tab?

In the MIDI editor, bottom left, where you choose the velocity of the notes, you can choose "pitch wheel" but it doesn't seem to work.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:54 am
by Acoustica Greg
Hi,

Which virtual instrument are you using? The plugin would have to be responsive to pitch wheel CC.


Greg

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 10:41 am
by joss
Of course it responds to the pitch wheel, but when I'm recording, as I say, it's about adding pitch bend after the MIDI clip or to an audio clip has already been recorded.

Do you know what cactus-head means when he says "Another way is manually add pitch bend on the MIDI details tab"?

Do you know where the midi details tab is?

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 10:53 am
by Acoustica Greg
Hi,

In the piano roll, click on Velocity and change it to Pitch Wheel. You may need to turn off or lower the Piano Roll's snap setting in order to get finer control.

Greg

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Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 3:03 pm
by joss
As I said above, I've already tried it and it doesn't seem to work.
However, knowing that it should work, I will try it with more enthusiasm.

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 3:13 pm
by Acoustica Greg
Hi,

Which virtual instrument is it?

Greg

Re: Pitch Bend effect on already recorded note

Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 4:26 pm
by joss
Ok...this is Kontakt 7 with Cinematic Guitars from Sample Logic and for some reason it doesn't sound correctly with the MIDI created from an audio clip but now I have recorded a clean guitar solo directly and yes...it has worked but I will have to learn to make the inflection sound real.
Thank you all. :D