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Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:15 pm
by marc32123
I have been wondering this for awhile, and I know that it takes research to figure it out... I am just hoping someone can point me in the right direction with some good articles or video tutorials hopefully. I just got done watching this video on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3X1JLxBq0w

I have no idea how to use all these function like LFO's, oscillators, filters etc. I know that learning how to use these effects and learning how to tweak these parameters and functions could really help bring me to the next level in my music making... any advice?

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 1:45 pm
by Mark Bliss
Tons of sources, don't know where to start!

The Berkley "introduction to music production" class has a good segment on the basics.

Googled "introduction to synthesizers" and got 450000 results.

A Youtube search hit 14300 results for the same phrase.

This is probably a good value based on my experience with other courses at the site:
https://www.groove3.com/synth-programmi ... -explained

And it wouldn't hurt a thing to select a preset and start experimenting with stuff and see what it does. :D

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:36 pm
by Rolling Estonian
marc32123 wrote:any advice?
Like anything, study and practice. Synths are there own beast and can take a lifetime to truly understand.

M

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:26 pm
by vizionheiry
marc32123 wrote:I have been wondering this for awhile, and I know that it takes research to figure it out... I am just hoping someone can point me in the right direction with some good articles or video tutorials hopefully. I just got done watching this video on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3X1JLxBq0w

I have no idea how to use all these function like LFO's, oscillators, filters etc. I know that learning how to use these effects and learning how to tweak these parameters and functions could really help bring me to the next level in my music making... any advice?
Have you tried Syntorial? It's a training software that teaches you about the functions of synths.

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:59 pm
by Mark Bliss
Mark Bliss wrote:And it wouldn't hurt a thing to select a preset and start experimenting with stuff and see what it does.
A little further explanation:
Sample the presets taking in the range and style of sounds. Make a mental note at minimum.
Pick one and create a short loop, four bars for example.
While it is playing in loop mode start tweaking knobs and paying attention to the changes.

I personally suggest a study of the basics would be the best place to start, so one at least understands the terminology and basic functions.

Syntorials is probably a good source as suggested too.

But I am no authority, I'd prefer to practice playing the spoons or a handsaw to messing with a synth personally.

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:49 pm
by marc32123
Thanks for the suggestion of Syntorial, it looks pretty sweet and I'm definitely going to check it out. Anyways, why don't you like messing with synths Mark?

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:58 pm
by marc32123
By the way, great idea with sampling the preset and adjusting etc. Mark, thanks.

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:18 pm
by Mark Bliss
marc32123 wrote:why don't you like messing with synths Mark?
Just not my thing, not a fan of the vast majority of the sounds made and way to fiddly.
Too many choices might be part of it. 8)

And besides, you know that song by the band "Europe" "Final countdown"? I rest my case. :lol:

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:22 pm
by Rolling Estonian
Mark Bliss wrote:And besides, you know that song by the band "Europe" "Final countdown"? I rest my case. :lol:
Oh come on!!!!! :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/iH1biQdyiQI

M

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:06 pm
by Mark Bliss
Yeah exactly. :lol:
No offense if someone is a fan, it's an inside joke here at my house.

But seriously, I have full respect for those who can layer the things and make something musical.
I think I suffer from the effect of hearing them in solo and just not feeling it. It was the same in the 70's and 80's with keyboard synths, and the virtual stuff makes me feel the same way.

It's just not my thing.

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:02 pm
by briannadejole
Mark Bliss wrote:
marc32123 wrote:why don't you like messing with synths Mark?
Just not my thing, not a fan of the vast majority of the sounds made and way to fiddly.
Too many choices might be part of it. 8)

And besides, you know that song by the band "Europe" "Final countdown"? I rest my case. :lol:
Mark, for not liking synthesisers you are heading to Venus. It's your final countdown! You are also sentenced to have the band Europe's hairstyle for the rest of the year. That will teach you!

I've been brought up listening to synthesiser music in the 80's. The Shadows did some of Jarre's tunes such as Equinoxe 5. I listened to some Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk. I purchased Mixcraft Pro for many reasons - one was to get all these synths :)

I would agree if you were referring to some of the early 80's pop use of Synth. I did not like Vienna by Ultravox. I hated the way that Human League used synthesisers. Synthesisers can be used badly. B ut for all that I am an avid synthesiser student!
When the point of singularity arrives a synthesiser robot will rule over us all.

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:06 pm
by Mark Bliss
To each their own, I'm cool with that. As long as I can take my guitars and stuff.

At the point of singularity, I'll be watching from deep space though.
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Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:28 am
by msnickybee
Just one word - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark. Well, 5 words. Hmmm.
Oh, and Vince Clarke.
But yes.

Synths used rhythmically, or blended in to be be almost unheard ie supportive, and in an orchestral sense are sublime. The Mixcraft "Stereo Cello" built-in, humble as it is, does this very very well.

I agree Mark, in Solo, harsh, but to add weight to a bottom end (cakes and desserts aside), they're ace!

What was the original question? ;-)

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:55 am
by Mark Bliss
msnickybee wrote:What was the original question? ;-)
I think it was about the doppler effect at 17500 MPH.
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Or maybe, "If you play a G-run in space, would anyone hear it"? 8)

Re: Questions on how to operate synths like Acoustica Nightlife

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:23 am
by Acoustica Greg
marc32123 wrote:I have been wondering this for awhile, and I know that it takes research to figure it out... I am just hoping someone can point me in the right direction with some good articles or video tutorials hopefully. I just got done watching this video on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3X1JLxBq0w

I have no idea how to use all these function like LFO's, oscillators, filters etc. I know that learning how to use these effects and learning how to tweak these parameters and functions could really help bring me to the next level in my music making... any advice?
Hi,

In regard to Nightlife specifically, if you click on the images on the Acoustica Nightlife page, each one is a short video. Also, Mitchell Sigman is doing a series of videos on Nightlife on our Zeroes & Ones Blog.

Greg